tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post7285915321647596188..comments2023-11-30T00:29:08.106-08:00Comments on Animal Pharm: Fermented Asian Food and Gut Dysbiosis 101Dr. B Ghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15451872961651116061noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-12485552707501783012011-05-05T17:01:36.307-07:002011-05-05T17:01:36.307-07:00Me too! Wish life were simple however it emulates ...Me too! Wish life were simple however it emulates networks... like we are all connected together, so are the biochemistry and energy, no matter how distant they appear.Dr. B Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15451872961651116061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-77299108373572055982011-05-05T16:45:52.383-07:002011-05-05T16:45:52.383-07:00Hi, Dr. BG - thanks for commenting. I have found t...Hi, Dr. BG - thanks for commenting. I have found that the lactic acid issue is a bit more complex than expected...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-72664342639782476432011-05-05T09:43:28.840-07:002011-05-05T09:43:28.840-07:00Hey Dan, Mr.Hokkien/Hakka HOTNESS :)
That is grea...Hey Dan, Mr.Hokkien/Hakka HOTNESS :)<br /><br />That is great you can read Wuxia!! I'm thoroughly jealous. Maybe when I retire I'll learn Chinese proficiently enough to read them...<br /><br />MDA and Nikoley are awesome and accesible. It's wonderful that you found them! Personally like you I avoid the Chinese restaurants too!! Too much omega-6 pufas! The secret to even the 'healthiest' purported restaurants is that the DEEP FRY everything in transfats. In Calif, like NYC, they've banned transfats but I personally doubt the Chinese restaurants will significantly change... Yeah vanity is a great motivator *wink* hence we stay paleo despite its challenges in the nealethal word. Not being a FANATIC is the key, I'd agree stringently after losing MANY BATTLES! *haa* My kids sneak it in the school cafeteria but they will tell me many times when they want to make me happy (yeah, I'm easy) they had *this food or that food* which didn't have gluten (like teriyaki chicken v. corndogs/burgers). The ones who miss gluten/wheat are the ones who are the most negatively affected. <br /><br />-GDr. B Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15451872961651116061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-36379257766985200642011-05-05T09:34:20.079-07:002011-05-05T09:34:20.079-07:00Anonymous,
Thanks for our comment and links, esp ...Anonymous,<br /><br />Thanks for our comment and links, esp the first to the informal THINCer and Barry Groves enlightening comments.<br /><br />Lactic acid is a problem when probiotics are given to someone with EXTREME SIBO (small intestinal bowel overgrowth) esp when the predominant microbes are in the lactobacillus family. This was brought up when I was learning about the comprehensive stool analyses and one of the leads at Metametrix pointed out the potential contraindication you are discussing here. In real life, I don't know if fermented yogurt would pose a problem but I can think of a few problems until the SIBO is controlled and effectively eradicated. Unless the yogurt is fully fermented for 24hrs or greater, the lactose in the yogurt may fuel the fire in SIBO. If the person is engaging in HIIT and endurance sports and athletics without being conditioned, the amount of lactic acid in the blood after exercise may also be significant. Also if acidosis is already occuring with lactate-producing microbes (bacterial, yeasts) and the problem is extreme, coupled with the other factors maybe problematic. There is a reason why the Chinese prefer 'alkaline' blood/body fluid states for longevity! A book called 'The Acid Alkaline food guide' By Dr. Susan Brown and Larry Triveiri uses the principles culled from nephrologist (and paleo MD) Dr. Lynda Frasetto MD from UCSF to adjust pH by alkaline producing foods (veggies, nuts) and avoiding acid-producing foods (sugar, grains/seeds except gluten-free ones like rice, quinoa). The states that yogurt, kefir and other fermented products are only mildly-acid producing and thus IMHO are fine. Meat is acid-producing however I think Cordain has extinguished the idea that is fails to confirm to optimal health. It's the balance and the key is keeping the gut happy and healthy. The first link talks about the HCl-feeding of dogs. Acid will degrade the gut lining of dogs. Naturally atherosclerotic plaque will occur! I'm not sure if the acid/base question is answered by that study.<br /><br />Lactic acid should not normally be a problem -- dietary or endogenously produced -- when all metabolic engines are 'go'. We effectively take care of it by clearing it from the blood stream (hence less sore muscles) unless certain circumstances overload the rate of clearance...<br /><br />One of the your links mentioned the drugs that predispose a metabolic acidosis state -- drugs, not dietary lactic acid, are far more powerful in causing mortality related to acidosis. Phenformin (no longer available in the US but as a contaminant in Chinese produced 'herbals' or 'drugs' is a big issue) killed people before it was taken off the market for inducing acidosis. Metformin has a rare warning for lactic acidosis which is fatal under certain conditions which predispose to drug induced acidosis or where the drug accumulates secondary to poor kidney function (heart failure stage III or IV, kidney dysfunction SCr > 1.4-1.5, dehydration, acute alcohol ingestion, chronic high dose alcohol, liver failure, etc).<br /><br />-GDr. B Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15451872961651116061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-13230140263880940852011-05-01T12:54:43.240-07:002011-05-01T12:54:43.240-07:00Your dinner looks yummy. Too bad I don't eat m...Your dinner looks yummy. Too bad I don't eat much at Chinese restaurants, even good ones because almost everything is fried in soy oil or smothered in high fructose/sugar sauces. <br /><br />I love my fermented grains too. Things like beer and naturally brewed soy sauce are some of my favorites. Do you know any evidences or studies that were done on their impacts on our health?<br /><br />I see your point on eating fermented food. The traditional paleo diet do not emphasis enough the health benefits of fermented food in our diet. What is your opinion on the effects of fiber on our intestinal health?<br /><br />By the way, one of my professor thinks that an obese person have a different intestinal flora than a slim person. According to him, the type of microflore in the obese person intestine can extract calories, nutrients and fatty acids from food more efficiently than the ones in a slim person. If I am not mistaken it must be the fermentation of a the indigestible fiber.Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-42724347608739230482011-04-26T15:42:37.538-07:002011-04-26T15:42:37.538-07:00P--
BTW you can tell Squiggs we ate the bugs ;) ...P--<br /><br />BTW you can tell Squiggs we ate the bugs ;) (well. my hubby didn't but Seth and i went for it)<br /><br />Delish and crunchy w/salt!!Dr. B Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15451872961651116061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-11563836502748159352011-04-26T15:32:04.766-07:002011-04-26T15:32:04.766-07:00Diet-wise I think I have really evolved so what I ...Diet-wise I think I have really evolved so what I advise is actually now very customized to a particular person and their respective current metabolic state and their stated health goals. <br /><br />The questions one should consider: <br />--Are they adrenally competent (b/c this requires some carbs 4-5 x daily)? Normalizing cortisol by eating carbs, protein, and fats at regularly paced intervals is essential to recover.<br />--Are they gonadally competent? Fasting is great but this will raise cortisol and lower testosterone too much if the adrenals are not in place.<br />--Fertility goals? Again all the above should be optimal but if they are difficient, for epigenetic purposes, all nutrient levels should be good and dandy otherwise the next generation will be affected. B-vitamin status (again folic acid and B12 are highest in meat/organ meats not veggies), cholesterol (eat yolks and animal fats), vitamin A and other fat-soluble vitamins nutrients like phosphatidylcholine/serine (yolks, animal fats, organ meats), omega-3 (wild game/fowl, avoid fish and seafood (even farmed) due to PCBs and methylmercury so $$$$ supplementation is best), minerals mag ca zinc selenium etc incl iodine... etc... until replete.<br />--Health goals? Gain lean muscle and strength? Lose belly fat? Lose subcutaneous fat? Lower leptin resistance? etc <br /><br />It's more complicated.Dr. B Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15451872961651116061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-82708161722447520442011-04-26T15:22:37.471-07:002011-04-26T15:22:37.471-07:00Peter,
Indeed! I think adaptability (mind/body) ...Peter, <br /><br />Indeed! I think adaptability (mind/body) = S*XXXXINESS *wink*<br /><br />-GDr. B Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15451872961651116061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-53176780797931448902011-04-26T04:17:04.506-07:002011-04-26T04:17:04.506-07:00Can you tell us what you specifically recommend, d...Can you tell us what you specifically recommend, diet-wise?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-38538712944367491292011-04-25T22:18:52.599-07:002011-04-25T22:18:52.599-07:00Wow, the flexible gentleman.....
Food looks fant...Wow, the flexible gentleman..... <br /><br />Food looks fantastic too<br /><br />PeterPeterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14527788116058656094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-73019339469175029172011-04-24T07:18:54.568-07:002011-04-24T07:18:54.568-07:00Calvin,
Happy Easter/Passover/Earth day! I highl...Calvin,<br /><br />Happy Easter/Passover/Earth day! I highly recommend visiting Asia but you'll gain wt -- the food is SPECTACULAR *ha*<br /><br />-GDr. B Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15451872961651116061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-88876343598996352542011-04-23T21:44:55.217-07:002011-04-23T21:44:55.217-07:00Hey G, Best wishes for a funtastic vacation. The ...Hey G, Best wishes for a funtastic vacation. The food posts look so yummy :)Calvinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11398466676042259694noreply@blogger.com