tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post681937626365772943..comments2023-11-30T00:29:08.106-08:00Comments on Animal Pharm: The Critical Role of Microflora In Vaccine Injury (Keith Bell's Green Med Info Post)Dr. B Ghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15451872961651116061noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-61381763329699281252014-10-29T06:59:30.472-07:002014-10-29T06:59:30.472-07:00Hi Natasha,
So did AOR-3 restore the potato tole...Hi Natasha, <br /><br />So did AOR-3 restore the potato tolerance? If so that is wonderful. You've started to heal the microvilli and immunity.<br /><br />I think all those tests are a great start -- particularly the stool ones and looking at vipers/parasites/yeasts. What you complain of is typical of this profile and the lack of the good gut symbionts.Dr. B Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15451872961651116061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-23859606332471370132014-10-28T23:17:31.241-07:002014-10-28T23:17:31.241-07:00Dear Grace,
Hi! Yes, potato intolerant. Almost
10...Dear Grace,<br /><br />Hi! Yes, potato intolerant. Almost<br />10 years. Symptoms: severe pain in all joints (hips would be inflammed globes of pain), cry, hot, angry. This reaction to smallest amount of potato or potato starch. 6 months of AOR-3 everyday and a I am eating potatoes....trying Potato Hack. :-)<br /><br />I lost ability to eat potatoes on a a low carb, low calorie diet. I lived for my 3 wheat crackers.... so I never lost the ability to eat wheat, but couldn't touch potatoes.<br /><br />Weightloss wise...I stood in the sauce aisle at the Korean grocery (H-Mart). I tried to get non-corn syrup red pEpperson sauce. <br /><br />I ate so much local kimchee that I had acid problems with my teeth. I made my own two.<br /><br />Now I am wondering what raw milk can do for me. <br /><br />I guess I just have to get my poo / gut tested. It's on my list. Also the 23 and me.... the full medical one is available here now. <br /><br />I am curious. What other tests do I need? My adrenals are fine, IMO. High cortisol is possibility because I have had non-stop, bad stress for a few years.<br /><br />N.Natasha :-)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-54152047071075450282014-10-28T21:01:57.107-07:002014-10-28T21:01:57.107-07:00You people are smart- a treat to lurk and learn, t...You people are smart- a treat to lurk and learn, thx for your insights!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-82919800508794310672014-10-28T20:22:43.386-07:002014-10-28T20:22:43.386-07:00Natasha
Youre like me! And now you are semi-train...Natasha<br /><br />Youre like me! And now you are semi-trained in functional medicine!<br /><br />Yes testing yields a lot -- one can pinpoint now why things are off. Because we are so sick, sometimes testing has to go very deep but the gut and urine testing yields a lot.<br /><br />How is PH, potato hack? did you have prior intolerances to eating potatoes?<br /><br />I think the PH is hypocaloric (high carb lol) so as a reset that may be the mechanisms. For adrenal fatigue however, anything fasting or perceived as fasting, VLC or IF, can be problematic because metabolism runs on adrenaline and demands cortisol. Dr. B Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15451872961651116061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-61129322659641082014-10-28T18:34:52.606-07:002014-10-28T18:34:52.606-07:00Dear Grace,
Yes, I have to admit, I am doing this...Dear Grace,<br /><br />Yes, I have to admit, I am doing this blindly - I have not had my gut tested. My husband lost his job in May and we are surviving on my income. We both thought he would be employed by now, but lots of people are out of work here. :-(<br /><br />I know I don't have an "ancestral" gut. Natural birth, but soy-formula fed. But I have been around health food culture my whole life - my Mom is from LA..... <br /><br />I have had my amalgam fillings out. Over the years I have spent $1,000's with Naturopaths, gone vegetarian (where I went up to 274 pounds), done gluten-free (never had a problem with gluten), candida diets, blood type diet, juice diets, pineapple diet, elimination diet, LC, LCHF, done cleanses of every kinds, taken enzymes of every kind, had regular colonics (now it makes me sad to think of the damage that did).<br /><br />I have taken so many health pills, potions and tonics that I could write several alternative health books without taking a break. I've done it all. <br /><br />In the end, I figured out what worked and what was hocus-pocus. So, now my health is good, stable. I went to university. I work. I got married. The only issue.... is weight.<br /><br />Last winter I did "keto" low carb. I was eating bacon, eggs cooked in coconut oil...fat, fat, fat. I would even lick the plate to get the last drops of fat. Never gained, never lost! So frustrating!!<br /><br />With you, Dr. Ayers, etc. I am doing SBO probiotics, prebiotics and fermented foods. Traditional foods done the traditional way.<br /><br />So, I did two days of Potato Hack, then I stressed about not knowing exactly what is in my gut. So I stopped.<br /><br /><br />Even if I knew what I was missing, how could I "get back" what I never had?<br /><br />Eating potatoes, allergies (grass, severe this year) and weight are my remaining issues.<br /><br />Thanks,<br />NatashaNatasha :-)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-10553665127930926952014-10-27T15:58:44.087-07:002014-10-27T15:58:44.087-07:00Regina
I'm finding out more and more fosterin...Regina<br /><br />I'm finding out more and more fostering the 'community' and their inter collaboration is the most important. We do need good fungi but they work best when surrounded by the beneficial soil and other good symbionts. Maybe a ration 1:10 to 1:20 yeast to good bacteria. But that ratio is flipped is those with different conditions -- broken brain-gut particularly (brain fog, psychosis, delusional/lunatic, food addictions, T2D, metabolic syndrome, obesity, etc). <br /><br />Exactly! Overweeding is as bad as antibiotics! <br /><br />High dose potato starch is often worse than antibiotics by silently skewing an already damaged baseline gut!Dr. B Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15451872961651116061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-55777846470485205322014-10-27T15:53:25.404-07:002014-10-27T15:53:25.404-07:00Anne
I think dark field analysis can be valid but...Anne<br /><br />I think dark field analysis can be valid but I don't know much about. Anytime the foregut or hindgut are leaky and non-selectively permeable, things (a ton of things) will flow over into blood. That study on the WAPF link is interesting. In olden Japanese and chinese days, soy sauce was actually fermented and probably rich in acidic fermentation products like ACV. Mincing meat and letting it soak with soy sauce, garlic and ginger for 20-30min prior to stir fry may have been the traditional way to reduce parasites and microbes since there was no refrigeration. <br /><br />Limiting fermented foods however may benefit during extreme intestinal permeability if the person had mycotoxin sensitivity or candida because wild yeasts and growth inducers for fungi are found there. Each person is individual in terms of that is tolerable. Some genetically are more sensitive. We need good soil probiotics to limit mycotoxins -- both in our food and our bodies, however! So fermented foods actually have the cultures that degrade mycotoxins. It's a double edged too, like all the ones at our disposal. Some are less helpful than others and it often depends on the person's gut journey and where they are in gut healing. Candida needs to be addressed 80-90% of the time. Dr. B Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15451872961651116061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-47355130828955072732014-10-27T08:18:42.294-07:002014-10-27T08:18:42.294-07:00Here's a link to the study I mentioned above:
...Here's a link to the study I mentioned above:<br /><br />http://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/how-does-pork-prepared-in-various-ways-affect-the-blood/<br /><br />I guess the question is off topic, but I brought it up because of the earlier comment about "fermentation products entering the bloodstream". The herbalist I mentioned, recommended avoiding fermented foods, because they said that the people who ate them and were tested using dark field live blood analysis, showed way more candida in the blood. I was wondering if there is any merit in the testing method or is it all nonsense? <br /><br />AnneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-7751642359172898792014-10-25T09:11:18.316-07:002014-10-25T09:11:18.316-07:00Grace,
What is your opinion of dark field live blo...Grace,<br />What is your opinion of dark field live blood cell analysis. There is a chiropractor/herbalist/acupuncture office I have visited, which "relies" on this test to determine all kinds of information about nutrient deficiencies, leaky gut - bacteria and fungus and parasites present in the blood, and the ability to break down proteins. The test is cheaper than the ones that functional diagnostic practitioners use, which makes be suspicious that it is not valid, or they would use it. I'm guessing that it might actually work for some of those diagnoses, but not all. Weston Price foundation, used it in a study which showed that proteins from pork meat soaked in brine were more easily digested. I suppose even if it were all valid, it doesn't give you a breakdown of exactly which species of pathogens you are dealing with.<br />AnneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-49790825919283091502014-10-24T19:14:33.149-07:002014-10-24T19:14:33.149-07:00Hi Dr. B G,
Chaga! I was always perplexed that mu...Hi Dr. B G,<br /><br />Chaga! I was always perplexed that mushrooms are anti-fungal. (But I know to trust an asian or russian on health matters ;o) ). Chaga might be an especially good weeder if it does not distrupt gut flora as much as other botanical weeders (goldenseal, berberine, pau d'acro, etc...).<br />Regards, ReginaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-81612809498807462072014-10-24T16:23:40.813-07:002014-10-24T16:23:40.813-07:00Anon,
Hope Ashwin and others chime in here. You ...Anon,<br /><br />Hope Ashwin and others chime in here. You asked: 'So by fermentation products entering into the bloodstream...do you also mean fermented veggies ie kraut kvass and kimchi?' The point of healing dysbiosis (which almost anyone with antiobits in their lifetime has) is to minimize damage and then to shift to a healthier microbiome.<br /><br />Fermented foods (like anything) can be double edged swords. When I was ill/CFS, I couldn't tolerate any even soy sauce because of the mycotoxins. For others who don't have these immuno-reactivity, then fermented foods might be perfectly fine and produce healing results by supplying<br />--glucuronic acid <br />--acidity <br />--fermentation products (lactate, etc)<br />--SYNBIOTIC <br /><br />Ancestral eating is synbiotic-focused that means you get the food for our flora and MORE FLORA (probiotics).Dr. B Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15451872961651116061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-83427820907905149462014-10-24T13:42:40.595-07:002014-10-24T13:42:40.595-07:00Dr. Ayers, that's a fascinating general view o...Dr. Ayers, that's a fascinating general view of flora imbalance/inflammation altering vitamin D metabolism. And I agree evidence is weak re: Celiac and fungal gliadin, though fungal overgrowth is linked with major gut disease. I've wondered about bacterial DNA injected into human intestinal epithelial cells reacting with gliadin. <br /><br />Adding to your construct, vitamin D level may be a matter of microbial synthesis and degradation. They produce and consume the precursors, block the receptor and degrade D as part of the enzymatic pathway. Yet vitamin D experts tout sunshine, supplements and diet amid a global rickets epidemic.<br /><br />This may be proof of concept considering microbial synthesis of ergosterol where microbes interact with host enzymes and light/heat to manufacture D: "Surprisingly, the 25-hydroxy vitamin D2 was produced without additional vitamin D2. Endogenous ergosterol was likely converted into vitamin D2 by UV irradiation" http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23548573<br /><br />Btw, I'm a fan, especially the one about worms producing our vitamin C!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06525351522656062339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-69267617172360765392014-10-24T09:48:38.204-07:002014-10-24T09:48:38.204-07:00Dr B.G OR Ashwin Patel,
Ashwin said earlier....&...Dr B.G OR Ashwin Patel,<br /><br /><br />Ashwin said earlier...."What I am trying to convey is that Step one should be to take control of the Dysbiosis before RS introduction.Perhaps another important factor to address may be increased intestinal permeability or inflammation before introducing any prebiotics. If the gut lining is leaky then exposing it to more fermentation products will only mean their entry into the bloodstream."<br /><br />So by fermentation products entering into the bloodstream...do you also mean fermented veggies ie kraut kvass and kimchi?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-79263377232703845672014-10-24T07:26:07.257-07:002014-10-24T07:26:07.257-07:00I look forward to hearing from you Dr. BG. Thank y...I look forward to hearing from you Dr. BG. Thank you!Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-56474909198565059802014-10-24T05:59:11.043-07:002014-10-24T05:59:11.043-07:00John
Thanks for your email, will respond!
Natash...John<br />Thanks for your email, will respond!<br /><br /><br />Natasha<br />Do you think you have starch, potato and sugar eating vipers in the wrong places of your gut? I bet many of the beneficial symbionts are missing. Have you done any gut testing or are you blindly winging it? <br /><br />The inability to reach certain health targets isn't necessarily genetic but the composition of the gut<br /><br />Instead of a starch hack, how about try some kind of gut and hormone testing and make therapeutic decisions from there? Fix the root problems and I betcha many of the challenges you might be facing now will vanish immediately. It does for me!<br /><br />I did a some fermented foods, SBOs and steamed purple potatoes then BOOM was able to eat anything again including gluten and dairy. My diet also had inulin rich foods and other probitoics. I had done signif seeding and weeding. <br /><br />Tim has done YEARS AND YEARS and seeding (from his dirt filled farm and poopy garden lol) and weeding with a potent antifungal and antiparasitic/antimicrobial tea called chaga. <br /><br />Nothing is overnight unless you've done the homework (or just lucky with a miracle)! Miracles are all good too but I trust we need to do our due diligence. Dr. B Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15451872961651116061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-13837700620553955822014-10-23T22:18:46.136-07:002014-10-23T22:18:46.136-07:00Natasha, you may want to add some beans / lentils ...Natasha, you may want to add some beans / lentils to your potatoes. You can't overeat them without any sort of fat or dressing, believe me :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-11226544621004194282014-10-23T21:48:33.561-07:002014-10-23T21:48:33.561-07:00Dear Grace,
Hi! Yes, it's Natasha - formerly...Dear Grace,<br /><br />Hi! Yes, it's Natasha - formerly "v. Potato". <br /><br />I am considering doing the PH - Potato Hack. My weight has crept up pretty steadily since I stopped low carb. Of course, it was already creeping....which is why I was desperately going Keto and LCHF.<br /><br />Anyway, I hit 203 today. I held 170-174 for years. My highest ever was 274. I'm 5'6",and would like to be 145.<br /><br />I read up on Tim's VegetablePharm website, plus the PH forum on MDA. I bought 10 pounds of organic potatoes... Cooking up 5 pounds right now, half on the stove and half in the oven. <br /><br />Not sure what will happen. My immune system might act up. But, I like to experiment. I will go slowly, meal by meal. If it is to much, I will back off. I will keep taking inulin, psyllium husk, Great Lakes Gelatin, as well as alternating the probiotics. Thoughts?<br /><br />N. :-)Natasha :-)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-46238349426884271932014-10-23T17:13:40.902-07:002014-10-23T17:13:40.902-07:00Dr. BG, will it go to your scam? I emailed you a f...Dr. BG, will it go to your scam? I emailed you a few days ago and did not hear back from you. Sorry to be a bother. I just really look forward to talking to you and want to make sure I can contact you correctly. I just clicked on your name and emailed. Hopefully, it reaches you. Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-20025241710806893502014-10-23T17:01:38.392-07:002014-10-23T17:01:38.392-07:00Tim is the Neo of all GUT GODS!! LolTim is the Neo of all GUT GODS!! LolDr. B Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15451872961651116061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-12599056253709137262014-10-23T16:50:21.003-07:002014-10-23T16:50:21.003-07:00ON moderate cooked RS3, an n=1 example of high dos...ON moderate cooked RS3, an n=1 example of high dose potato starch (RS2) created an impressively skewed gut fingerprint toward heavy Bacteroides, that was exhibiting only a fraction of the core immunoprotective flora. This pattern may not ideal for some although the person was fine; Tim felt great, no health problems.<br /><br />Significantly missing?<br />F praus<br />Roseburia<br />Akkermansia<br />Eubacteria<br /><br />http://drbganimalpharm.blogspot.com/2014/09/dont-take-resistant-starch-alone-part-2.htmlDr. B Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15451872961651116061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-51729665150365361802014-10-23T16:44:20.965-07:002014-10-23T16:44:20.965-07:00John
Yes of course clikc on my name!
Anon,
The g...John<br />Yes of course clikc on my name!<br /><br /><br />Anon,<br />The gut is an enigma/black-box until you do testing. Yes, RS2 appears to feed non-core species and this can be a problem. It depends on your black box. It is not scientific or evidence based, if data and evidence are being ignored. We are so lucky to have this technology at our fingertips now!<br /><br />Can you imagine just a few years ago, it cost 400-700 dollars to analyze genus and species in fecal matter! Now we can have it down to the species level (GDX only -- not Amgut or ubiome sadly)!!! THIS IS TOTALLY WYLD and great for gut health.<br /><br />Matt and I will be talking so much about this in the future. Matt and I are ordinary blokes but we are 'aware' of our bodies and do testing. We were both f*kced by potato starch and I think it is important to look at how, why, when, it works or does it insidiously and silently cause untold damage to frail gut ecosystems.<br /><br />We get an awful amount of butyrate propionate and acetate and lactate from fermentation of many diverse plant fibers and cooked starches, as well as subsequent and proper amplification of the human gut symbionts. <br /><br />If this is your goal, then looking at what's in the gut and what they like to eat is probably vital.<br /><br />I think these core gut flora are very important for inner and outer health and should cared for very specially, particularly to overcome health conditions whether it's cancer, crc, metabolic conditions (fatty liver, gout, T2D, hypertention, coronary disease) or autoimmunity. Sorry for the spam!Dr. B Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15451872961651116061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-46093498432124908112014-10-23T16:04:32.577-07:002014-10-23T16:04:32.577-07:00Hi Dr. B.G,
I see on your previous post that peop...Hi Dr. B.G,<br /><br />I see on your previous post that people with autoimmune sx shouldn't be taking rs2 until they get their gut health fixed. <br /><br />I don't have an autoimmune disease but have some sx of one. I am seeing that fermented veggies and probiotics are important and would like to take probiotic aor 3 but notice it has ps in it. Is that the same as rs2 and could I still take it? Any other probiotics you recommend?<br /><br />Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-8433113802350449642014-10-23T15:25:29.022-07:002014-10-23T15:25:29.022-07:00How can I contact you Dr. BG? Are you able to orde...How can I contact you Dr. BG? Are you able to order the test for me? I believe you thought that the anonymous post was from Nick or Anon but it was from me. I am sorry for the confusion. Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-8718602446569663042014-10-23T15:13:15.217-07:002014-10-23T15:13:15.217-07:00Anonymous said...
I love everything that is going ...Anonymous said...<br />I love everything that is going on here in this blog but I am wondering... how can I get the GI FX test? That is the best one correct? What are my options??? I am under the impression that only physicians can order the tests so how do I find one that can do so? Thank you!! I forgot to leave my name (I was the anonymous post above.. Sorry Dr. BG)Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6780103924890350442.post-9038935723851019152014-10-23T13:13:43.706-07:002014-10-23T13:13:43.706-07:00Art
UR FRICKIN AWESOME. So polyQ is at the crossr...Art<br /><br />UR FRICKIN AWESOME. So polyQ is at the crossroads of fungal immunoreactivity and food (plant babies and the way evolution protects her babies).Dr. B Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15451872961651116061noreply@blogger.com