The yeast conversation continues as Matt asks Dr. Grace just how much truth is there to the candida epidemic. The symptoms are everywhere, but there is a bunch of skepticism along side the diagnosis of candida. Dr. Grace and Matt discuss how certain metals in the body can be detrimental in its harboring of candida. And for those who are having problems with candida, Dr. Grace offers her own experience and the methods she used to rid her problems. There is even more to be discussed on future episodes.
Enjoy!
Show Notes:
Dr. Grace’s N=1 Blog Post
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Wonderful talk Dr. Grace!
ReplyDeleteThe accompanying resource list is a treasure.
The Nutri-West Exspore looks to pack a powerful punch. Particularly paired in combination with the enzymes.
Thanks, once again, for your sharing this information.
Regina
Regina~
ReplyDeleteThank you for your kind words!! It's too fun with Matt! I hope many readers will find that source to be as wonderful, concise, unbiased, complete and easy to read as I do.
Welcome!
Thanks for continuing to discuss the importance of targeting candida, it can be a relentless beast when trying to fix the gut as has proven in my case.
ReplyDeleteYou touched on berberine, curcuma and coconut oil. I just purchased berberine and use coconut oil daily (and sometimes turmeric), but you mention the possibility of adverse effects in both....berberine/curcuma for blood sugar and coconut oil in keytones. Can you elaborate a little on those two scenarios and the potential for different results?
Through the evolution of your research it seems FODMAPS may be irrelevant in terms of avoidance. Considering the fact that B.Longum could be the ultimate gut guardian and it primarily feeds on inulin rich foods (fodmaps). How do we know the intolerance is not the "battle" going on in the gut that (may be) paramount to healing? Additionally, some people have found success with a garlic protocol of consuming daily garlic cloves to knock down the burden of overgrowth while possibly feeding the starving symbionts (B.Longum?) with it's inulin content.
Anon,
ReplyDeleteBerberine and curcuman are often used in Indian medicine for diabetes. For me, they appear to really knock my sugars down unless I use low doses.
Coconut oil generates some ketones -- sometimes these are great for the gut besides metabolism and fat burning.
Yes -- there is a push/pull with garlic in terms of reducing pathogens and yeasts v. selectively feeding bifido and lacto. I agree -- I think it can do both in a lot of cases.
"How do we know the intolerance is not the "battle" going on in the gut that (may be) paramount to healing". You may be able to tell as the GI symptoms improve, less bloating gas cramps and suboptimal Bristols. If one can eat white rice and cooked tubers/yams, then advancing to FODMAPS will be easier I think because white rice (RS3 and starch) feeds less of the gut flora then FODMAPS.
Hi dr. Grace!!
ReplyDeleteBeen following your website and I want your opinion on something. I found soil probiotics which contain the following.. Rhodococcus, Rhodobacter, Nitrosomonas. Nitro Bacter, B Subtilis.
Lichiniformis, B Polymixa, B Megaterium, A Niger, A Oryzae, T. Reesei.
but this product contains prosolex as an important component. Is this safe for consumption??
RN is a little skank and i support you. so will other people.
ReplyDeleteThank you Anon. I appreciate your warm support. I won't be silenced, by lies or skankiness. ;)
ReplyDeleteThank you Dr. Grace for all you do.
ReplyDeleteMy postprandial BG tonight was 97, last night it was 87. My energy is through the roof. This is a dream come true.
You ROCK!
It's wonderful being able to eat carbs safely again. The food is satisfying, there's no desire or cravings to eat any other way.
ReplyDeleteHi Dr Grace,
ReplyDeleteI recently found your blog, what a wealth of information. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
I've been battling Seborrhea/Dandruff for years, paleo and heavy dose probiotics haven't helped much. I just started taking the probiotics you recommend (AOR, PA, S. Boulardii, BB536), eating cooled starches and natural antifungals such as garlic/onions.
While it's still too early to gauge progress, I wonder if the above alone will be enough. Since Seborrhea is linked to yeast, do you think it might also be necessary to remove mercury fillings or get a strong prescription antifungal such as Fluconazole or Nystatin?
Keep doing what you do and the flash in the pan know-nothing that is RN will fade away. Total nutjob is that one.
ReplyDeletedrbg, skank is saying you made the skank comment as a sock puppet. i set him straight on his blog, but he'll just take down the comment like he did for the other ones i made in support of you. i used the work 'skank' on woo's blog earlier, so that is proof of no sock puppet.
ReplyDeletethis is what i just posted on itsthewooo's blog where i post as weilasmith:
ReplyDeletei called him a skank on grace liu's blog and RN is saying the skank comment was sock puppetry. no no no. RN also took down my comments where i asked him to plz find nudie pics of me so he could threaten to post them on the internet. too bad my life so boring that there is NO DIRT for him to use to threaten me with as he is trying to do to others. boo hoo! RN is like a different version of the Grinch- when he heard the Who's singing instead of crying- his heart didn't grow. instead he farted into his santa bag and dropped a bomb of methane gas on who-ville. tim is his dog max.
who is the blogger being a dick?
ReplyDeleteAnon,
ReplyDeleteNo one is a dick ;) They want attention for their fiber cause and I think that is great. 'Fiber' needs love all that it can get.
v mary~ I miss your comments! Thanks for your thoughts.
Anon,
ReplyDeleteI'm not familiar with many of the strains in the SBOs yet. The 2 I know: B Subtilis.
B. Lichiniformis
helped me to regain tolerance to a lot of foods I had let go due to severe dysbiosis -- dairy and gluten. Now our family even eats it a little and no problems, bloating or gas. Let me get back to soon!
Christie,
It's not me! UR AMAZING and have wonderfully researched gut solutions! That is truly wonderful to hear!! Sounds like the gut Tesla's are ROARING!
Anon,
So glad you find the information accessible and helpful. I love your feedback. ' Since Seborrhea is linked to yeast, do you think it might also be necessary to remove mercury fillings or get a strong prescription antifungal such as Fluconazole or Nystatin?' Some people do and others may not. It may be determined by how well immunity flips back to normal. Under typical homeostasis our TH17 and Dectin-1 receptors are supposed to recognize errant Candida that overgrows. These can be 'broken'. I think you are right -- mercury -- definitely may be involved. For me, I could not heal the gut until all of the mercury was removed in terms of in my mouth.
I'm looking forward to hearing what works for you and your gut journey soon
Other Anon, I don't think the blogger is being a dick. He's just revealing his ..... no nevermind, he is being a dick. He is starved for more and more attention and is constantly inventing ways to direct attention towards himself. This is why he so badly contradicts himself over time. Making sense takes a back seat to getting attention.
ReplyDeleteEven me writing this serves his purpose.
Well I'm so grateful that the Gut Goddess had the "guts" to not be intimidated into silence. You have nothing but respect from me.
ReplyDeleteAt first it was really hard to switch from raw potato starch to inulin due to inulin intolerance, but after trying a few different Bifido probiotics I was finally able to find one that worked for me and then I 'broke the inulin barrier'.
Inulin is the best thing to happen to me. Now my tolerance for exercise is unstoppable. Knowing what is possible allows me the motivation to get out there and lose the weight! Thank you so much.
I'm gonna be so HAAAWT!
Thx Christie for your thoughts!
DeleteUR ALREADY SOOOO HAWWT!!! Luv 'breaking the inulin barrier'!!!
Christie, would you mind detailing the probiotics you tried and the one which ultimately sorted the inulin issue?
DeleteCheers
HI Rob,
ReplyDeleteNatren Bifido Factor. I ordered it straight from the company that makes it. I read comments on Amazon and learned that the people selling it there do not ship it refrigerated so if you’re going to bother with it make sure you get it directly from the company that makes it.
I had IBS-d. The flare ups would cause a painful reaction in the lower gut so I suspect histamine was a problem. If you do some internet googling you’ll see that there are some probiotics that reduce histamine, some that are neutral, and some that will cause a histamine reaction.
I’m guessing that because Natren Bifido Factor contains a single strain of Bifido known to reduce histamine, that that is what solved my problem. I can only speculate but it seems plausible.
So what worked was to stop all other probiotics except for Natren Bifodo Factor, I took it twice daily, I also stopped inulin, then after awhile I bravely ate a little sunchoke, like the size of my finger tip, got a farty reaction but was able to tolerate it, then slowly increased the amount of sunchoke I ate each day. Finally I was able to introduce inulin powder successfully.
Good luck to you, I hope it works.
C.
Thank you Christie -- THAT IS AWESOME
DeleteAlso the brand of inulin powder made a difference. NOW inulin is easily tolerated compared to another brand I tried.
ReplyDeleteThanks very much for the reply Christie, I'm going to give your method a shot as I can't tolerate histamines (or many other things!), cheers
Deletegood ol rn deleting all comments in support of you. there are quite a few. meanwhile his female supporters could care less (or are ignorant of) how he threatened you. he tried to post something insulting for me to look at- but unlike him i have self-control- i just don't click. not curious enough, i guess. ho hum.
ReplyDeletemy new name for rn is kaboom.
ReplyDeletern is bragging about harrassing a supporter in emails. if this happens to anyone else, go to:
ReplyDeletehttps://support.google.com/mail/answer/29434?hl=en
and it will tell you how to set up a filter etc.
To all being fired up by this primary-school conflict between Dr Liu and RN, can you please stop spamming both blogs with irrelevant noise ? Let's stick to the topics and science discussed here, thanks.
ReplyDeletei am going to stop. i was fired up because this is a pattern of behavior with him and should not be tolerated. i will now leave it up to grace as i have vented out. but i just wanted her and anyone else he has dirt on not to be afraid- people will support you against that asshole.
ReplyDeleteps i am no longer spamming rn's blog, since he blocked me. but if you go to itsthewooo.blogspot.com, you can see comments by people who while disgusted a the blackmail, also have comments about RN as quack with examples to support their position. sorry grace for cluttering your blog. i will take my leave now.
ReplyDeleteMary Gorgeous Goddess~!
DeleteYou're always welcome here! I appreciate your thoughts. You are quite the firecracker WHEN LIT UP~!!!
Don't hesitate to email me at so I can personally thank you (click on my name)
Cheers and hugs -G
v/mary could you also stop spamming here? Thank you,
ReplyDeletePalva
DR. Grace - Does this mean you've finally seen the folly of your way and have come back around to help us low carb zealots out? Please say yes! I hated when you abandoned us, but now the good old boys have thrown you under the bus, we will take you back without hesitation!
ReplyDeleteI never abandoned! Youre confused by my (lame) association! I've refined and am into low net carb (did you see my banner above) -- like the Pima Indians lol
DeleteAs I am not sure if RN will reply to this on his own blog, and he still seems to read this blog, I will put it here. I am still waiting for an actual intelligent detailed analysis and response from him, and Tim, to Grace's actual conclusions and the actual studies and analysis that she has used to demonstrate her conclusions regarding the need for a precautionary approach to the use of Raw Potato Starch. And I don't mean hiding behind generalisations,'MetaRulz','Thumbrulz', going off into irrelevant side issues, and blah blah. I mean how much can someone invoke a constant stream of aggressive emotional dribble, and waffle on so much and not actually address the actual issue. Dr Eades all over again.
ReplyDeleteGood luck ;)
DeleteDR BG - Do you think cayenne pills will lower or hurt my efforts to grow bifido, especially bifido longum?? I want to supplement with it if it doesn't harm.
ReplyDeleteFor some cayenne disrupts gut permeability -- depends on the gut? dose? I do love some hot peppers in chili and chili has high GOS which is the superfood for B longum. Maybe they cancel each other out?
Delete"I never abandoned! Youre confused by my (lame) association!"
ReplyDeleteIn March you called VLC a "Microbiome Killer" that was just like an antibiotic.
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OTHER MICROBIOME KILLERS = Atkin's, VLC, Ketotic, Low-Fiber Diets
Butyrate drops precipitously with a low-carbohydrate, low fiber/RS diet in a study by Duncan et al 2007. The anti-inflammatory gut species took nosedives (see below) -- Roseburia, F prausnitzii, Ruminococci, and Bifidobacteria. Subsequently, butyrate in the stools became only 1/5 to 1/4 of the maintenance diet amount. Butyrate trended with Roseburia (Clostridium cluster XIVa) populations. The prime fuel (70-80%) for colonocytes is butyrate from microbial fermentation (the next best is glutamine from skeletal muscle, then glucose). An energy crisis occurs when they are not supplied well. Human gut characters prefer and need indigestible carbohydrates. Indigestible to Homo sapien but digestible to microbial amylases and a consortium of enzymes that break down all configurations of fiber and RS starches down. These butyrate-producers are not as carnivorous as other species (Bacteroidetes). This is likely from millions or perhaps I suspect billions of years of co-evolution where our gut species took advantage of the environmental bounty and abundance of plant fibers. The biomass of earth is 75% plant carbohydrates; microbes blanket the earth, air and water.
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How exactly have you refined this?
Pippy
ReplyDeleteLow glycemic index means foods with carbs but they are complexed into the indigestible plant polysaccharides and therefore the impact on blood glucoses is low. Additionally when acetate, propionate, lactate are produced from the suite of ancestral gut flora they provide insulin sensitivity by multiple mechanisms such as binding GPR41/43 and making the starches that escape digestion to the uppergut more 'resistant' to amylases (and thus less BG). Butyrate doesn't bind that well compared to the affinity of acetate for GPR43.http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12711604
Low GI starchy or inulin-rich foods contain these wonderful fuel for immunoprotective and insulin sensitizing gut flora:
--RS3
--RS1
--fiber: oligosaccharides (GOS-beans, FOS), inulin (2nd most abundant on earth), beta glucan, pectins, hemicelluloses, lignin, glucomannan, arabinogalactan, arabinoxylan, xylans, etc
Even white rice and white potatoes can be low GI when they are served with acidity (or the host has fantastic gastric juices, rare in this day and age).
Thx Pippy
Ah! So basically EVERY form of fiber is great! (Except RS2)
ReplyDeleteYup! Until verification of Akk, Christensenella and Bifidobacteria longum indigenous populations can be verified. Thx for the clarification!
Delete"Low glycemic index means foods with carbs but they are complexed into the indigestible plant polysaccharides and therefore the impact on blood glucoses is low"
ReplyDeleteI know what low glycemic means, but I'm still confused on your position. You still called VLC a Microbiome Killer. Do you still believe that or not? Which is it?
Pippy
ReplyDeletehttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=duncan+roseburia+low+carbohydrate
The studies by Duncan show how the gut diversity is lowered and certain vital and immunoprotective species are mowed down (not unlike high dosage RPS, or any single sourced high fiber that fails to feed the majority).
"The studies by Duncan show how the gut diversity is lowered and certain vital and immunoprotective species are mowed down"
ReplyDeleteOk, thanks for clearing that up. So it sounds like you still don't approve of VLC then. You could have just said!
It's not a clear cut answer. My net carbs (sorry -- you may hate that term like I do) is 100 grams a day. That's LC.
DeleteI'm not ketogenic often but am occasionally. After the gut improved I could ditch the salt and half of the adrenal support because the thyroid and adrenals have come back online!
Recently cut back on thyroid when lost 10 lbs on new version of bionic B LONGUM fiber lol.
"It's not a clear cut answer"
ReplyDeleteArgh. Sorry, now I'm really confused. We aren't talking about LC. Is VLC a "Microbiome Killer" or not? You seemed very sure in March that it was! lol
Pippy
ReplyDeleteIf I am talking Pima Indian VLC, then no. If I'm talking old school Atkins which stepwise adds in starchy carbs to tolerance etc, then no. If I'm talking what Duncan et al used in their diets, then yes. For many with starch eating vipers in their guts, this is the best bridge until the gut flora can be restored which is fine. SCD, strict Paleo, VLC and GAPS are great tools. I vote however for ancestral diets and even higher carbs for those who can recover insulin sensitivity and have the carb alleles to do well glycolytically (apoE2, amylase, etc).
Pippy, the problem stems from how one defines carbohydrate. It's a very broad term, everything from easily digestible sugars to completely indigestible chitin, which makes up the exoskeletons of arthropods and insects. People who practice VLC are probably not consuming sufficient microbiota accessible carbohydrates to keep their gut buddies happy, healthy, and pumping out short chain fatty acids. It's actually not easy to do. Which is why I don't do VLC, just low carb. Keep my fasting blood sugar in the 90-100 range. I am Type 2 diabetic, so I play around with things and check my blood sugar to see what bumps me and what doesn't. One small very green banana and a teaspoon of inulin isn't bad, but a tablespoon of inulin and a big green banana isn't good. It's all N=1.
ReplyDeleteShould have said "tablespoon of yacon", not "tablespoon of inulin". Haven't experimented with refined inulin yet.
ReplyDeleteThanks Ilaine
DeleteYacon is truly interesting and so are many of the supps used for improving insulin sensitivity. Yacon is best taken with carby meals because it's more filling and satiating that way. I find that even green bananas are very starchy for me (the ethylene?). My gut does best with lots of insoluble fiber, including psyllium. But others can have allergies or intolerances with psyllium (cross reactivity to grains?).
How do you do with onions, leeks, parsnips, daikon or fodmaps? Perhaps your gut is shifting to ferment and cross-ferment these more efficiently.
Dr. Grace, I think it sounds like you're saying VLC diets are fine if used for as a short term intervention, and not indefinitely. Thanks for clearing that up.
ReplyDeleteBut the Pima ancestral diet wasn't VLC. Their ancestral diet was 70%-80% carbs! LOL
http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/16/1/369.abstract
Pippy
DeleteThat article listed margarine and whole wheat toast as 'traditional'.
I like this article one of the seminal Pima articles Brand et al AJCN 1990 (it's kinda the reason why I went into nutrition lol) -- I think ancestral fits and matches our DNA in ways that we don't yet understand but our genome and metagenome (that of our combined with gut flora) can translate. Whole food has iRNA -- it modulates and changes gene expression. Processed can't. It is another reason for gut disruption I suspect.
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/20978445_Plasma_glucose_and_insulin_responses_to_traditional_Pima_Indian_meals
YES! ;) I like short term or as long as necessary to recover some degree of gut health. Too long (what I've observed) is a deterioration of adrenal function because of the reliance of cortisol/adrenaline to sustain normal blood sugars and low thyroid which of course will both impact and affect gut disruption.
DeleteAlso this was a shocker (not really LOL, very PHD)
DeleteImprovement of Insulin Sensitivity by Isoenergy High Carbohydrate Traditional Asian Diet: A Randomized Controlled Pilot Feasibility Study
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0106851
Dr. Grace,
ReplyDeleteThe margarine was only mentioned in a recommended modern recreation of the ancestral diet.
I don't think you should ignore the evidence just because it's inconvenient. The study on the Pima's ancestral diet reviewed the historical texts and said:
"For at least 500-1000 yr, the Pima lived in the Sonoran Desert as farmers, hunters, and gatherers. An intricate canal system allowed cultivation of crops such as wheat, maize, beans, and squash (6) Hunting of mule deer, jackrabbits, and birds (7), fishing from the Gila River (8), and gathering foods from the desert (such as saguaro cactus fruit, mesquite beans, cholla cactus buds, prickly pear fruit, wild berries, and wild greens) also contributed substantially to their diet."
That's not a VLC diet.
Yes -- doesn't appear high fat either. I'm sorry -- I'm not dismissing it. Like the other study, it lists an amazing and untainted food supply. Actually I'm not sure what to make of the last 1000 yrs of their diet, but maize was likely to be a staple as maize with South America and Africa for eons longer. I do agree that beans and many small seed grains have a place and should even be considered 'Paleo' by Cordain et al.
Deletehttp://drbganimalpharm.blogspot.com/2014/07/legumes-and-potatoes-are-certainly-p-l.html
"Whole food has iRNA"
ReplyDeleteFood has iRNA? Interfering RNA (iRNA) is a process, no? We cannot eat it. I think you must mean microRNA.
Aren't they the same?
DeleteDr. Grace, I do fine with onions, garlic, leeks, daikon, asparagus, etc. Parsnips are a little too sweet. Right now too sedentary to deplete glycogen because recuperating from surgery. Have to be extra vigilant about carbs.
ReplyDeleteBTW, don't think I ever thanked you for the wealth of information on this site and all the work and love you put into it. I have IBS-D, much better with microbiota accessible carbohydrates and soil based probiotics. Have no idea about candida or whatever, will get tested next year. Three round of antibiotics over the past year, one for an infected ulcer, two prophylactic in connection with surgery no doubt threw things out of whack. Whatever tests show now will no doubt change over time due to diligent attention to gut health.
Ilaine
DeleteAppreciate your following and finding the blog helpful! Hope your surgery recovery is smooth and very uneventful. Sorry to hear about the ulcer. (mean foot ulcer? probiotics help in wound care fyi!)
For diabetes, obesity, NASH/fatty liver and other metabolic disorders, getting to the root of microbial influences I think helps fix the problem faster.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-y524bGJYFHc/VIjg5UpnbNI/AAAAAAAAB2o/_UIFOOyYsZU/s1600/disease%2Bfingerprints%2BAHS.001.jpg
For the gut there is higher pathogens like E coli and yeasts (both secrete alcohol into circulation from the uppergut). Sometimes high Bacteroides is evident (high dosage potato starch will make Bacteroides worse for many).
These vipers are decreased by all the oligosaccharide prebiotics and bifido/lacto probiotics, whilst boosting the insulin-sensitizing AKK, B LONGUM per studies). VERY LITTLE PREBIOTIC is required. Oligosaccharides are the plant polysaccharides you want to feed them. (If you do not do well on oligos, the gut may have Klebsiella oxytoca or overgrowths of Roseburia which love to ferment oligos and inulin).
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21177446
The Role of Klebsiella in Crohn’s Disease with a Potential for the Use of Antimicrobial Measures
http://www.hindawi.com/journals/ijr/2013/610393/
Kleb pneumonia won't eat inulin but K oxytoca will. Many have this overgrowth until they weed a little. Yeasts need weeding too -- please listen to our Gut Guardian podcasts.
My 7 steps is based on my and clients' successes with weeding/seeding and Tim Steele's weeding/seeding for YEARS with a strong botanical tea (similar to grape seed extract, curcumin and berberine). Unfortunately I don't think his gut plan boosted any B longum or Akkermansia.
Ilaine
DeleteSteve and I are re-building Akkermansia! And blasting body fat and restoring lean muscle mass! (and removing pathogenic vipers). BG reduced from 80s-low90s to low 60s
http://www.diabetes-warrior.net/2014/12/17/excellent-adventure/
Dr. Grace,
ReplyDeleteYour new bionic B recipe has helped me tremendously on a mechanical level as well as improved my feeling of health. Taking out the psyllium and adding the Acacia Fiber to the inulin has consistently been effective. I have been trying to find a practitioner who can order the gut testing and who can keep an eye on my overall health metabolically. I have found that it is the wild west out there in dealing with alternative practitioners or anti aging type docs. Are there coaches or consultants who can order testing for patients online and maybe work with a local doc or NP? Why do we even need a doc to order tests I completely understand prescribing treatments but for a gut biome test? Thanks again for your great information.
Dr. Grace
ReplyDeleteI forgot to mention that I would like to have someone keep an eye on my insulin levels. Dr. Ron Rosedale's writings have helped me to understand that the blood sugar readings that occur after a dietary intervention are not as important as the insulin levels and other more sophisticated markers of inflammation/aging Leptin resistance, pro-inflammatory cytokines etc. So on the one hand I see this wonderful knowledge bloom about the gut biome but i feel the need to make sure any intervention is syncing with metabolic reality. I think that metabolic reality trumps any artificial (hence potentially dangerous) labels, practices, philosophies, or teachers that influence people to take actions. I really appreciate your commitment to science and testing and improving my ability to communicate with my health providers.
Doggerms
DeleteYou're super adept! Yes -- insulin levels are far more 'telling' and indicative. With a surge of insulin, naturally glucoses goes down, no? That is the end game of insulin. We just want this to not be excessive or drive insulin resistance over time. What I'm finding is that naturally the microbiota is KEY.
'Metabolic reality' is cool, love your term! I shun pseudoscience and false medical claims. I hope you do too. Be brutal and tell me if I ever slide that way.
When I was eating almond flour and sugary paleo goodies, I had the highest insulin fasting ever (5.4). It was 4.7 after I stopped them all and starting working out again (one Shanghai winter, and depressed several friends had left).
What is your insulin now after bionic fiber changes? If you are in the USA, I can order testing -- pls click on my name.
We will be learning so much more about Akkermansia and INSULIN -- Id love to see what yours is now on the upgraded bionic fiber ;)
Psyllium may cause allergies. What problems did you have? For those it works for, it may grow mucin by 3-fold (one study). (for others if the barrier is too eroded, it 'scratches'). Inulin is far gentler and still provides excellent pathogen resistance.
Hi Dr B G
ReplyDeleteCan probiotics be taken at the same time as weeding is done? or should they be taken at alternate times.
Thanks
Anon
ReplyDeleteThey need to be separated 2hrs min
Actually when I say weeding -- I mean the 'weeding' and pathogen explusion process that our probiotics exert too
--fermented foods
--soil probiotics
--B longum probiotics
--environmental and friend/fam exposures
--etc
Can one continue with various weed and seed protocols (pre and probiotics / cooked and cooled RS / SBO's / Berberine / Curcumin) while taking Glucobay (Acarbose)?
ReplyDeleteDr. B G according to your last post, do you mean I should take the Bifido probiotic and prescript with atleast a 2 hour gap?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0048357514000947
ReplyDeleteHey Grace, just wanted to drop this study on your doorstep for you to check out. Pretty terrifying stuff.
Alex
ReplyDeleteWOW. Thanks -- haven't seen yet. Neurotoxins aren't good... (combine that with mercury and other neurotoxins).
LOVELY
Anon
If weeding includes antibacterial botanicals (or antibiotics), consider spacing with any live probiotics by 2 hours so there is no 'killing effect' in the gut if they are in the gut simulatenously
"Steve and I are re-building Akkermansia! And blasting body fat and restoring lean muscle mass! (and removing pathogenic vipers). BG reduced from 80s-low90s to low 60s
ReplyDeletehttp://www.diabetes-warrior.net/2014/12/17/excellent-adventure/"
This is awesome! I hope you have before and after Akkermansia levels so you can shut 'certain people' up!
plz go to itsthewooo.blogspot.com to see proof of concept pics of richard nickoley. you can see from the photos that he has lots to offer in health-giving advice since he has apparently helped himself so much over the years (since 2009 that i've been following).
ReplyDeleteV/vmary~ you and woo are my favorite and so astute. Speaking of fake names and aliases, Tim Steele has spent a lot of time posting deceptive comments everywhere under anonymous and pseudonyms. Why do snarky people do this?
ReplyDeleteAs far as I can tell, Tim is one of the few people who defend you and take time to "interpret" you for others. I have seen him post as "Otzi," "Akman," "Tatertot," and "Tim Steele." All with a similar message and no hesitation to give his real name and even personal email address.
ReplyDeleteit's so funny watching rn trying to appear so reasonable and friendly on woo's blog. i remind people every chance i get what a skank he is. he also sexually harrassed wooo in messages. quite coincidentally someone called my cell phone last night, and since it was late i answered it while i usually answer nothing unless i know the caller id- just an old habit. i answered it because the phone number displayed on the caller id was exactly the same as my cell phone except for the last two numbers. then someone garbled something which i could make put. i put the number on the reject/block list and informed everyone in my family not to take any call that they didn't recognize from caller id. i also told them to watch their email. it didn't happen, but a little too coincidental for my taste. i think it was with kim ill sung himself (if you know what i mean) or one of his minions. technology is too good nowadays. if you don't want contact, it's pretty easy to avoid it. i haven't seen tim or duck on rn's blog. is it shunning season, or maybe they are just busy with the holidays? i have a minor child in my house, so if the kim regime gets bored and tries something, school email for his wife goes into effect (the form of it is standard around the US), and i will appeal to her love of children to put a stop to any possible harrassment.
ReplyDeletemaybe you don't want to comment here, and if so, just email me, but how can his wife take it? she doesn't have children keeping her in the marriage. will you publish your own book? is tim cut out of the deal with rn?
ReplyDeleteI would totally agree that Tim Steele is one of the few people that defend you. To believe that Tim is posting deceptive comments about you anonymously, speaks volumes about you.
ReplyDeleteOK.
ReplyDeleteMy phone is ringing off the hook.
Grace busted me, fair and square.
I posted the anonymous comment at December 18, 2014 4:04 PM concerning her "Akkermansia" remarks.
I didn't mean it to be deceptive. Snarky? Sure.
Not sure what I would have to be deceptive about, but I have posted around using several usernames, but never to hide who I am.
Cheers,
Tim
v/mary ~ I'm sorry -- I don't know how to email you.
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Are misunderstanding imho? Misleading comments about what potato starch (RPS/RUMPS) does for guts, unscientific claims, stories, etc at the MDA forum and other threads.
Thank you for your comments but I believe he is aware of my gut flora stances (Akkermansia is good for us ;) lol unless overgrown in defective barriers)
Tim
You posted others -- the stupid 'pig study'? And you are ANON AGAIN! aha
MDA? blown up raw potato bedtime stories, myths and fake outcomes?
ANyway it just makes me laugh you are a very good one-man marketer for white hamster powder!
oh well, i am paranoid about email, so i'll just talk here. you were the first of your triad to talk about the gut, as you did it way before at AHS. i wish you success and happy holidays with your family.
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ReplyDeleteI feel like I've known you in paleo land forever, and going down similar nutri paths. Hope you enjoy a spectacular holiday season to you and your beautiful family as well!
Tim~
Happy holidays! Stay warm and trust more
Hi DrBG!
ReplyDeleteDo you have any thoughts on megadosing probiotics? For example working your way up to +-8 caps of these daily: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J5DGZQG/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00J5DGZQG&linkCode=as2&tag=selfhacked-20&linkId=FG6BKQBSYEKZOYFM
Qube,
DeleteHadza, rural inhabitants, farmers and ancestral societies probably get megadoses of environmental microbes. That product is high in B lactis which is not a high concentration bifido. It has benefits but not to the degree to what good fiber stimulates (B longum and bifidum).
This product Bifido max is more expensive but covers what we lack (or if you have damaged your gut flora with white hamster powder, aka raw potato starch):
http://www.iherb.com/Renew-Life-Ultimate-Flora-Critical-Colon-Bifido-Max-80-Billion-30-Veggie-Caps/27551
Bifidobacterium bifidum 5215 30 billion ***
Lactobacillus acidophilus 16 billion ***
Bifidobacterium lactis 5219 6.5 billion ***
Bifidobacterium breve 5 billion ***
Bifidobacterium longum 4 billion ***
Lactobacillus casei 4 billion ***
Lactobacillus rhamnosus 4 billion ***
Bifidobacterium bifidum 5860 3 billion ***
Bifidobacterium lactis 5220 2 billion ***
Lactobacillus plantarum 2 billion ***
Bifidobacterium infantis 1.5 billion ***
Lactococcus lactis 1.2 billion ***
Lactobacillus bulgaricus 400 million ***
Lactobacillus salivarius 400 million
are all the anon's the same? yes, i am paranoid, but at the moment i compensate and do not need meds. i am not in wooo's league when it comes to medical knowledge or her way with words. grace was being generous.
ReplyDeleteanon said: "And people you deal with in comments on blogs find your identity, address, cell number, and hijack the number except for the last two digits in hours."
ReplyDeleteanon, did i say this happened with hours? you seem to know a lot about it...are you perhaps one of the assholes/crazies on the internet? see? i still here.
Anon- most pharmDs have a 4 year undergrad degree, in addition to 4 years of pharmacy school. it's a much different degree than a masters. Pharmacists are not medical doctors, but when it comes to medications I wouldn't trust anyone more.
ReplyDeleteThanks Steve. I actually trust even less than you! Most pharmacists still believe drugs are good for us...like I used to!
DeleteMy education includes a Bachelor's in Nutritional Science and Food Science from Cal; PharmD from UOP and a residency from the VA. I took a 2 year break before Pharm and worked as a lab assistant in the lab of the editor of Plant Physiology, chopping barley, washing a lot of petri dishes and running Westerns.
I'm most proudest of my Xfit nutri cert when Robb Wolf was still giving them in Chico lol~!
which ever anon you are, why do you even care about me? i have nothing to do with you. weirdo.
ReplyDeleteI deleted some troll comments, sorry about that!
DeleteFrom what I have read, the Pima Indians didn't grow wheat, beans, and squash. They grew corn, beans, and squash instead.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.bigorrin.org/pima_kids.htm
If anything, I suspect that their health would have declined when exposed to what would have been called "white man's food"; wheat, dairy, and sugar.
Thank you James
DeleteHere is an interesting article to read:
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http://owndoc.com/candida-albicans/mushrooms-fungi-molds-candida/
And for whatever its worth, I have found that adding various supermarket mushrooms to soups and stews this time of the year (winter) has helped greatly in fighting off various colds and flus.
Lemon and ginger have also been helpful:
http://www.thecandidadiet.com/ginger-antifungal/
http://www.thecandidadiet.com/candida-fighting-foods.htm
And instead of eating a zinc lozenge, I add oysters and clams to a seafood chowder.
Zinc/copper deficiency and candida:
http://www.arltma.com/Articles/CandidaDoc.htm
Thanks James -- those are wonderful resources. Yes if people are not cross reactive to mushrooms, they are amazing immunoprotective superfoods and have a wide variety of medicinal properties besides tasting great in nearly every dish. What I miss about Shanghai are the nearly dozen kinds of fresh and dried mushrooms at every local wet market.
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ReplyDeleteJust like Dr BG always wanted Carte Blanche and stature and dispensation equivalent to those who had 2-3 times more coat and effort, and did internship and residency working under supervision, she wants the same here when her years long practice of holding herself out as a doctor is called into question.
Queries deleted.
You had said something to v/vmary, so I deleted your comment. Thanks for your thoughts!
DeleteThanks for your thoughts, i've got the bifidomax coming to my home in 1 or 2 days haha
ReplyDeleteI've also got candibactin-br biocurcumin and aloe vera juice on the way to see if that makes a difference. Not testing, just guessing : /
Would you know if my toe - which has a fungal infection for over a year now arise in any complications (yeast/candida?). Besides this i've always had a bad gut, just wondering if this could contribute to a worse gut
qube, please let me know what works - subclinical candida and pathogenic/microbial overgrowths are difficult. Testing does help to narrow things down. Most importantly you want to restore the native indigenous flora as the parasites/yeasts are moving out.
Deletewaaa, neige shuai ge de zhao pian zhen hao (zai ni gang fang de post li)!! wo xian zai yong pinyin jiushi yao qi women zui ai de hundan. grace, ni kan dong wode pinyin ma? hao xiang neige baichi zhi neng zhao ge zhong guo pengyou bang ta fan yi. bu ran ta mei ban fa kan dong. google translate ye mei you yong. xiwang ni kandedong pinyin!!
ReplyDeleteTesting will be done once i earn more $$.
ReplyDeleteDo you have any thoughts about eating mushrooms late at night? When i eat a pack of white button mushrooms(220g), twice now i have more difficulty falling asleep, and i wake up 4 and half hours later not being able to fall asleep. I also feel more heated and worked up a bit. Strangely although my sleep quality was greatly reduced, i do feel fine, almost better than my normal sleep days.
I'll let you know if i improve. Currently on pro-15/lowfodmap/RS3 for, will let you know how i improve on bifidomax/prescript/prebiotics/botanicals/ORAC
Qube ~Would love to hear what works. Mushrooms can be strong inducers of growth of good gut symbionts. Maybe something was dying off and disrupted sleep? What is pro-15?
Deletegrace, i was having some fun at you know who's expense with my comments above, but now i am plain bored with him. please disregard those comments and even take them down if they clutter. xin nian kuai le! (happy new year!)
ReplyDeletev/vmary ~! mei wenti. wo kandedong pinyin keshi hen man, hen cuo lol. wo xiwang nijiaren dou ting hao. zuijin wo xiao henduo youyu nide jingcai de xiao hua. MERRY CHRISTMAS~!!
DeleteHi Grace,
ReplyDeletePro-15 is the most popular probiotic on Amazon, but i figured bifidomax is like taking 50 of those in one go hah. I took it and experienced increased mental clarity and energy. Still need to try out my botanicals and prescript. My main problem is what feels like my brainstem and brain feels pressured and stressed, causing cognitive impairement and sluggishness/depression. Weird, not sure if this is gut related but regardless i'm feeling better since stumbling upon your blog and will continue to improve i hope : )
Would using enzymes to destroy biofilm matrix of these nasty vipers also fall into 'spacing 2 hours apart' from probiotics (seeding)?
ReplyDeletemy protocol would be using biofilm buster and probiotics upon waking and anti-fungals/microbial 2 hours later.
Would that be correct assessment?
BTW. In love with your blog, and new PROFOUND love for bacteria!
Dr Grace you may have commented on the but I missed it. I recently heard Dr Joel Kahn discuss the use of saccharomyces boulardii to treat heart patients. I am wondering if you have any thoughts on the use of these to help heal the gut. It supposedly help bifido colonies
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